Dr. Julie Mayer Hunt On Loving What You Do

Loving what you do means never having to work a day in your life. This is certainly true for Dr. Julie Mayer Hunt, as she and host Dr. Kevin Pecca discuss her accomplished career as a chiropractor. In this episode, Dr. Julie takes a look back at what drew her towards chiropractic medicine, her father's storied practice, and her son taking after her, establishing a career in chiropractic medicine as well. We also get a look at a few studies involving stem cells, the lymphatic system, and how these impact her specialty, Orthospinology. Hungry for more? Then tune in to learn from Dr. Julie.

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Dr. Julie Mayer Hunt On Loving What You Do

The Orthospinology Upper Cervical Technique

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We have a very special guest here, Dr. Julie Mayer Hunt. She is world-renowned in the upper cervical community. She has been doing it for a long time. She gets phenomenal results. She is so passionate about what she does. It is an honor to have you on the show. How are you?

I’m blessed to be with you.

Thank you. I've been part of the upper cervical community as a doctor now for a few years. Even though you're not there, your name is always dropped in conversations at the Blair conferences. I've heard so many great things about you. I've heard you speak on other shows, so thank you so much for joining us. I believe you’d like to start the conversation with where are you from originally.

I'm from Clearwater, Florida. Technically, I was conceived in Davenport, Iowa, but they headed to Clearwater, Florida, when my father graduated. It’s where they ended up and that's where I was born.

What's it like being raised in an upper cervical-specific family? It is nothing short of phenomenal.

What did your dad practice when you were young?

When dad first set up in practice, he was practicing Toggle. He and BJ were very good friends. He worked in the lab with BJ. BJ moved to Sarasota in the late ‘50s. The story goes that dad would go down to visit him. Mom and I, and at some point, my sister, were tag-alongs. I apparently was bouncing on BJ's knee. This is what I heard. This goes way back. We're talking in the 1959 or 1960 timeframe. Being raised in an upper cervical-specific family, my dad went into the Grostic work in about 1960 or somewhere in there. There's a great story about that, but you knew where your health came from. You had no question where your health came from. There was no pediatrician in my life. If I got sick, I got adjusted and got better. That's the way life works, but if I were to break a leg, that's a different story.

What was the chiropractic community like back then? It must've been completely different.

My dad built right across the street from the Catholic school that I ended up going to. I'd spend my days at school and the afternoons at my dad's office. The local chiropractors told him he was building too far outside of town to make it, but that was many years ago. It has grown immeasurably to where we're thinking we need to move to the North county because we're too far South. It’s crazy how this area has grown.

Even more so in the last year or two, I bet. People are flocking down to Florida. Your father started with Toggle. What made him expand into the other fields of upper cervical?

A doctor in Tampa, Andy Anderson, was doing the Grostic work. My dad had mutual patients who said they did well with my father's care, but they did better with Andy Anderson’s care, and then there came a pivotable night. I was probably 3 to 4, and I had the crud. I was sick. Dad was adjusting me and I remember hearing that headpiece drop. He’d adjust me and I’d go, “Come on, dad. Get it.” He’d adjust me and I go, “He didn't get it.” He would adjust me again. This went on for a while and finally, he packed me up probably around 9:00 PM and drove me to Tampa.

As a little pup at that point, I remember never being out on roads like the Causeway from Clearwater to Tampa. There were no cars out. I remember looking around. I don't think kids at that point in the late ‘50s or early ‘60s went out at night in a car. I was blown away by how everything looked at night on the Causeway, but what I remember was we got to Andy Anderson's office and he got me filmed and adjusted. Coming home, I knew I was going to be well. I had that sense that everybody loves when you get adjusted where you’re like, “I’m going to be fine.” I went, “I’m in.” By the time I was six, I had announced I wanted to do what my dad does and I never looked back.

That was my next question because there are a lot of chiropractors that their children don't go into the chiropractic field.

Neither of my siblings did. My sister Cathy has worked in the office. She has been a massage therapist, but she didn't want to do chiropractic. My brother never wanted to. He was a massage therapist for a few years or so. Our son is now in practice with us as well. In fact, my father and my son were in the practice. They call it the Grand Day, the grandfather and grandson.

I tried not to push it. With my son, I wanted it to be his life. I thought that it was very important. I'd say, “Pray what God's path is for your life because it could be something different.” At one point, he was eighteen and we were having dinner and something came up about chiropracting. He goes, “With all my heart, I want to be a chiropractor.” I went, “He's in.”

Let's talk a little bit more about your upper cervical journey. It sounds like your dad was doing Grostic. From that moment on, he probably learned the technique and you do something completely different than that now.*

Technically, the name is different and because I grew up in this world, I remember being at conferences watching Roy Sweat present when I was less than ten years old. When Dr. Grostic passed, they could not call the work the Grostic work anymore. What happened was the Grostic group that was out of Ann Arbor, Michigan, split into two groups, the NUCCA group and Orthospinology. Originally, Roy Sweat was President of Orthospinology. The Southern doctors, my father included, went with Orthospinology.

At that moment in time, was that done by hand?

It was always done by hand and Dr. Cecil Laney is the one who developed the instruments. It's because he had been injured in a sub attack in the war and he had lost the function of the long head of his triceps. He could not do the hand adjustments, so he developed the instruments out of his handicap. I had been raised on the Grostic adjustment that now was Orthospinology. I was wrapped up learning. Have you ever had a NUCCA adjustment or a Grostic hand adjustment?

I have not had NUCCA or Grostic done.

The table is 1 foot off the floor. I’m 6’2”. You’re bent over. It’s twelve steps to put your hands together. I knew I had to do it. That's what you do. I looked sideways at my dad and I said, “What would I do if I ever got pregnant?” He said, “You'll have to quit for a year.” I said, “I'm not quitting for a year. Give me the instrument. I'm not going to play that game.” Honestly, I consider the Grostic and the NUCCA practitioners the Marines. They are the few, the proud and the brave. They are at the top of the heat. The instrument makes the work much easier. My dad, at 89, has no problem seeing patients all morning. It's not physically hard on him.

As far as the hand and the instrument adjusting, how does it feel? Is it the same or different? Do you notice people hold longer, less or it doesn't really correlate? I was raised on the hand adjustment, so I was very preferential to it, but I found that when my dad went to the instrument, it felt slightly different when you were adjusted, but you sometimes held better and I got the same results. I was very comfortable with the instrument. I had an unfortunate experience in chiropractic college. I was using one of the cable-mounted life instruments. It looks like an AO instrument. There's a box over the patient's head.

We are still friends. She's a DO now. She has six children, but she was sixteen at the time. The entire head of the unit fell off into her head. I made the decision right there. I'm not putting something over somebody’s head ever again that I don't have complete control of. I became Florida's first board-certified pediatric chiropractor. Working with kids, you need something you can move with them because they're not laying there still saying, “Okay, whenever.” Sometimes, I have adults who act like kids.

I noticed that you love working with pediatrics. You wrote a book on it. Is that something you got into after you had your children or were you into it before? My dad had the vision that I would go into pediatrics and I'm thinking, “Why would I do that?” I've been in practice years before my husband and I had a child. Once I had a child, I realized how much I didn't know about kids. I was like, “Teach me more. Come on.”

Where did you learn pediatrics and the upper cervical practice? How did you combine that?

I did the ICA pediatric program, which is exceptional. When I graduated, I realized all of these doctors who were focused on pediatrics, the number one area that they were focused on is the craniocervical junction, the atlas. When it came to adjusting, working with atlas is a natural marriage, but I had developed a protocol that I use for kids that were too young to get x-rayed or it was too difficult to get x-rays. That's what I published in Claudia Anrig’s textbook, which the third edition of is due out here this coming April 2022.

In fact, I got an email approving a diagram that I had been revisited for the chapter. When I graduated from the pediatric diplomate program, I first was teaching for the ICPA for the first few years, and then I went over to teaching for the ICA, the pediatrics upper cervical program. Probably in about 2008, I realized that what I was teaching was too complicated for one weekend. What I've done now is I teach a course at my office. Once doctors have had the orthogonal training, whether it's AO, NUCCA, or Orthospinology, they need that foundational information to be able to build on how to work with a toddler that you can't get films on.

Is there an easy way to test or see laterality on an infant?

I have developed a protocol, but it takes hands-on training. It’s not something I can spout off and everybody will get it.

Where can people find that?

It's in Claudia Anrig’s textbook.

Is there a webinar or do you teach actual seminars with the pediatrics as well? I do. I teach once a year at my office pediatrics for doctors who I said have had the orthogonal training. If I have a NUCCA doctor who wants to become an expert in working with pediatrics, they've got the background to understand how I'm creating this protocol for atlas laterality.

Is most of your practice pediatric or is it for all ages? It’s for family.

Do the kids usually come in first or is it the parents and then bringing in their kids? It’s the parents and then brings in the kids. In fact, I had one, which was the fifth generation. They’re a family that we’re working with.

That's a beautiful thing. A lot of people seeking upper cervical care may not know the difference between upper cervical and regular chiropractic. We get that question a lot. It’s obvious if you know upper cervical, but why do you think it's so good with neurological disorders like Meniere’s, migraines, or vertigo?

I wish I had a graphic I could show you right now. I have an Orthospinology textbook at my office. The front of the textbook shows a diagram of a person who's out of alignment and then it shows a person in alignment. I had a four-year-old come in and he had a stack of medical records that was 2-foot tall. I'm looking at this little guy and I'm thinking, “How am I going to connect with him?” After all, that's been done with him, he's looking at another white coat. He wasn't happy. His parents weren't happy. I took my textbook out, which has this diagram of this person who's misaligned versus the person who's aligned, and I asked him, “Which one of these guys are going to be healthier?” He pointed to the straight person. I said, “That's what we do here.” He said, “Let's do that.”

It made sense to him.

He did well with fear, but I don't have the graphic to show you if you look at the spine. If I did, that would make a lot of sense. Twenty three of the segments are all chained together. They're hooked together. The top vertebra underneath the weight of the head can do a 360. It’s only the dens holding onto it and the soft tissue. There are no bony stops.

I have a bowling ball in the office that’s 11 pounds and I had my dad put a broomstick in it. The average weight of the head is 10 to 14 pounds. I'll have a patient that's not the little guy hold the broomstick and feel the weight of the head and understand that the weight of this head isn't centered over the segments beneath it. They're all going to compensate. You can go ahead and manipulate, but if you don't get this juncture right, it'll keep driving the problem every month. As far as neurological, unfortunately, my best example is Christopher Reeve. Where was he injured?

The exact location? I do not know.

The C2 is what was fractured. The dens were fractured and went into the cord. Did anything work on him beneath there?

No.

His lower back was fine. It wasn't injured. It was his neck that was injured. It was perfectly healthy, but it could get no signals. If he had broken the spine one level beneath and damaged the cord one level beneath, he could have been breathing on his own, but no, he could not breathe on his own. There was nothing that worked. We are wired from above down. Several years ago, to take that point a step further, I got involved in some research with Dr. Scott Rosa out of New York.

I wanted to ask you about this.

He measured fluid flow to and from the brain after the alignment. On the 43 cases we worked with for that weekend, there were fifteen crossovers and this study is soon to be published. There was a measurable increase in fluid flow. I won't give you the percentage. I’m waiting for this study to be published, but Dr. Damadian, the inventor of the MRI, had to develop the software to measure the fluid flow chain. It had not crossed my mind that when this juncture here isn't balanced, it’s the mouth to the brain. If that's locked up, you're going to have lots of fluid flow to the brain.

A year after that study, they found the glymphatic system in the brain. They never knew it had existed, and they're now looking at this fluid flow disruption as the root for all neurodegenerative diseases from dementia, Alzheimer's and MS. I've had remarkable cases in MS, Parkinson's, and ALS that I have never turned around, but I have seen such an improvement in their quality in life and health that I allow myself to get involved. Is that an upright MRI that they're using? Yes.

Somebody gets adjusted, and then how soon after do they get put in the MRI to get remeasured?

When we go up to New York, we do it within the hour.

That’s very cool.

When I came back from New York, I went to the local MRI center here. I can't do the fluid flow, but I put together sequencing of the craniocervical junction, which has had not been done prior. Nobody looks at that area because there's not a disc, but I've done well over 1,000 studies, and I've learned so much about the importance of the opportunity for fluid flow, blood flow, and everything to and from the brain through that juncture. There are a lot of pieces to it. It would be a whole class.

I wanted to pick your brain a little bit about the healing process because the upper cervical can be up, down and around while people go through the healing process. Some people feel great afterward. Some people feel no different. Sometimes, it gets a little worse before it gets better.

I don't really see that. I've only been in practice for years. What I generally see is immediate results. It is not uncommon. I had a patient that broke into tears. I said, “It's okay. That happens a lot.” People feel such a release. It's so remarkable and when we're in that malposition, if you will, or subluxated position, we're in sympathetic overdrive constantly. When you palpate the erector spinae muscles, which are responsible for our leg length, hip balance and so forth, when they're in contraction, sometimes, I palpate that group on one side and it's like a flipping 2x4. It's so spasmed. I'll have the patient say, “Take your arm, give me a Popeye muscle and now, hold it there for two years.” That's exhausting. What your spine is doing is exhausting.

Generally, I see pretty remarkable results from day one with respect to results. There are some cases I've hit that have large Chiaris. A Chiari is where there's brain tissue down in the spinal cord area. The only thing we can relate to as far as brain tissue is our eyeballs. They're an extension of the fourth ventricle. They’re brain tissue. If we get an eyelash in there, it feels like a flipping Buick. You have two lima bean-sized structures down in that brain stem area that isn't supposed to have anything else touching it and it's like two lima beans in your eye socket. Those are cases that when we adjust, we usually use 1/4 to 1/2 pound of pressure because we have to move it very carefully. Otherwise, the average amount of pressure is 1 to 2 pounds.

** I'll rephrase my question. In terms of healing and ligament stability and people holding adjustments.**

That's a different factor. I'll be honest with you here. I had another young man. I think he was number 40 who wanted to go to chiropractic college. I steered him away from chiropractic college. I steered him to osteopathic college for this reason. I believe that what we're doing with stem cells holds the key to damaged soft tissue and alignment. We're not there now. We're still in the toddler phase. The only stem cell work I will approve of is my body healing me or your body healing you. This is not the stuff we pull off a shelf. Soft tissue support makes that area less stable or less able to hold.

I firmly believe what will speed up the healing process is if we can do stem cells along with the alignment to create some glue to hold what I put in place. When I've worked with a youngster that's not complicated by significant trauma, they only do a couple of visits. At the most, if they have torticollis, maybe six. Kids hold their adjustments very well. People who've had multiple accidents, like head and neck trauma, don't hold their adjustments as well as the pups I treat. I believe that at the end of the day, what's going to make a difference, there is doing some stem cells along with the alignment to create some glue to hold what we put into place.

Are you working closely with somebody down there that does that? I work with Dr. Centeno, who's out of Denver, Colorado.

Is that Regenexx?

Regenexx is clearly at the lead. I have a doctor in Tampa, Dr. Leaver, who I work with for other areas other than the craniocervical junction, but I've had a number of patients who had significant damage to that craniocervical junction to where that atlas is not able to hold because the ligaments have been damaged sufficiently. Dr. Centeno was the only one doing stem cell into the craniocervical junction at this time.

At what point do you recommend it?

If I have a patient that has 6-plus millimeters overhang on a digital motion x-ray where we can measure that, I don't have a question there. They're never going to hold. I can adjust them once a week for the rest of their life. It's not going to hold.

Where are you measuring the overhang?

On the DMX between the base of the dens and that lateral mass. There are a lot of patients that you can work with that you can help immeasurably, but then there are those that you have to pull back and say, “We've got to take another step to create some glue to hold the stability.” I have one patient who I managed for about twelve years and her dens had never ossified to the C2 vertebra, so that dens was a free-floating segment and not holding it.

We finally got to a point where I saw enough pressure on the brainstem that I referred her for surgical intervention because there's no glue that you're going to put in there to replace the bone that didn't form properly. It's not soft tissue. It’s a hard tissue, but the reason I went as long as I did with her was that I know that she's going to end up with a second surgery or a third surgery because where that fusion is done, the stress on that segment beneath it is dramatic. I know it's going to break down and she's going to need another fusion. It breaks my heart, but I didn't have an option with her.

I noticed on your website, you also have a [CLASS IV Laser Therapy] (https://www.MayerChiropractic.com/class-iv-laser-therapy/) and [Red Light Therapy] (https://www.MayerChiropractic.com/red-light-therapy/). How does that work in conjunction with upper cervical care?

I looked at lasers for years, honestly. For the cold lasers, I never saw enough results that I could jump in, but the Class IV Laser is a warm laser, and when they came out, I sent a half dozen patients to a PT group that I worked with has a Class IV Laser. I saw immeasurable improvement in the patient's pain level when it was bone on bone or something degenerative in the joint, otherwise, the knee or the hip, that type of thing. I got a Class IV Laser for that purpose. The light there, called Theralight 360, came out about a couple of years ago.

When I have a case that's fibromyalgia or neuropathy, I can get them out of their current pain, but they have so much inflammation backed up in their body that I never get to the home plate with them. I get them out of the hole they're in, but I never see them pull out of the pain sequencing because of all the backup of the inflammation in the body. I'm going to give you my best example. When he was in his late 30s, my father dug in a ditch in an area. It was a large area, but he didn't want to wet his shoes, so he dug it barefoot. He could not walk for two weeks. He was on his hands and knees. He damaged the bed of his foot so badly digging the ditch with the shovel. My father's ability to feel his foot has never been right since and it had gotten much worse over the years. We did BEMER therapy. I don't know if you've heard of BEMER.

Is that when they lay on the mat?

Yes. It’s the circulation assist. We did that for about four months and didn't see any change to speak up for his problem. The light that came out, and I knew that my dad’s gait was such that he couldn't feel that foot. He would often step on other people's feet and not know it. He was always apologizing because he didn't mean to. He just couldn't feel his foot, so we got the light bed, and within ten visits, this is what he tells me, “I can now feel the gas pedal under my foot.” I’m like, “You couldn't feel the gas pedal under your foot?” He tells me things like he now feels the nap of the carpet when he’s walking. He doesn't step on people's feet. I use the light bed for specific situations. I only use the light bed for global problems, not specific joint problems.

Do you have any ads or advice for any young upper cervical doctors trying to master their technique and get better results? With many years of experience, what have you seen, realized and put together?

You have to study those x-rays or that imaging you're using. CBCT is up and coming. I use MRI as well. When you study that pre-imposed imagining, whatever that may be, and you see the changes and you follow the changes that you're making positively and you make amendments for things that don’t move, the pre-imposed imaging is key to learning what you're doing. You can't spend enough time.

If you can’t see it, you can't fix it.

You got to study it and know what you're doing and how you're accomplishing your treatment goal. I don't think it's here now, but I was hoping to do a DMX showing the adjustment and movement, but I have a feeling the adjustment is so quick, the DMX isn't able to capture it. I didn't get that verbatim out of the DMX guru, but I think I heard that.

Do you think there's something behind the adjustment? I think it's a good example in Orthospinology that you can do an adjustment and have it hold months at a time and you give somebody the same vectors and they only hold a week. Is there a preparation or a mindset? Do you mentally prepare before you deliver an adjustment that you think might transfer over to the patient?

I think several things play into that. Number one, we live in a past fast-paced world. When my father first opened in 1958, he had an entire three rooms of resting rooms that people would go back and rest. I think resting after the adjustment is important, but by the same token, people don't want to hang out in an office just resting. Probably the mid-‘80s, that changed. That's my recall as I saw things. We ask the patient if they could consider going home and laying down and resting if they live within a reasonable distance.

Resting is huge.

It’s a huge part. It’s letting the body adapt to the changes that are going on.

If they stick around in your office, how long do you recommend?

I’d like 30 minutes. My dad always did an hour, but to get somebody lay there for an hour is pretty tough these days. They don't see the value.

Was there anything else you wanted to touch on?

When I have somebody come in who clearly is on the high end of the spectrum of stress and they're not sleeping well, they're fidgeting left, right and center, I encourage that they find a body of water and practice floating. In Florida, it’s not so hard during the summer. It’s to learn how to calm themselves down. You can recommend meditation, yoga or other things, but probably, floating is the quickest way to get somebody to let go because they can't float and hold on to the stress.

I like that.

Float therapy is very valuable. I had a patient that, as I worked with him, I looked at him and said, “You've never been able to float.” He said, “I've never been able to float.” There was this tension in his body. I'm like, “I want you to get into a pool and start to learn how to float. It's a process. You have to learn how to float.”

After many years of being an upper cervical doctor, are you more fired up or the same?

I’m more fired up.

Is that because of all the cool, new technology coming out that helps you do your job more specifically and better?

Yes. That and seeing people get the lives back they were meant to live.

Do you see yourself retiring at some point or keep going as long as you can?

My dad's still practicing at 63-plus years old. He’ll be 64 in February 2022. There is tremendous joy in helping people.

It’s come to see that full circle. Is your son coming into the office now? He has been there for a few years now.

He didn't just graduate? Yeah.

Where can people find your office online? Do you have any social media that you may have and where can they schedule an appointment?

MayerChiropractic.com is the website, and there's a Facebook page. It's probably [Mayer Chiropractic] (https://www.Facebook.com/MayerChiropractic/), but calling the office is how we schedule at this point.

When your dad was around, that was just pure word of mouth doing a good job, getting results and getting more people, right?

That's still what it is. Sixty-five percent of our referrals each month are physician referrals from orthopedic surgeons, medical doctors or doctors who have learned to trust that I'm not going to hurt somebody.

How long did it take you to establish those relationships with those other physicians?

It comes from mutual patients talking to the doctors. That’s where the confidence comes from with the physicians referring. They're blown away by the results they see their patients get and then come in as patients. It's a beautiful thing. Here’s a quick story. A cardiologist came in to see me and anytime I have a physician in the office, they are nervous as all can be. What I do is I ask a patient I'm going in to see if it would be okay if I let this physician observe them getting treated. I bring the physician in to observe me treating a patient.

This cardiologist comes in and I have this patient in room one. I get him treated and the cardiologist is watching and I see him breathing going, “This looks cool,” and then it hit me. When he came in to see me, this young man was a total drug addict. We're talking on a scale of 1 to 10. I would not let him alone in my office. I always had somebody watching him because I didn't know what he was going to do next.

As I'm working with him, I'm going, “I haven't checked in with him on how he's doing with his drug addiction. Do I ask him?” I said yes, so I asked him, “How are you doing with your drug addiction?” He said, “Thanks to you. I'm off the drugs.” I said, “No. You had to choose to get off the drug addiction. There’s more to it than this.” He goes, “Yeah, but you gave me a pathway. I didn't have any relief from pain any other way than the drugs until I came in to see you,” and the cardiologist is going, “You should be involved in rehab.”

I said, “No. We need to teach our kids how to get out of pain without a drug before they end up in rehab.” I had a young man in that had a wicked sore throat. He's fifteen-ish. I said, “Swallow. How bad is it?” He swallowed and goes, “It's pretty bad.” I said, “Let's get you adjusted.” I got him adjusted and set him up. I said, “Swallow again.” He goes, “What did you do?” He was very mathematically inclined. He said, “It was a 75% bad sore throat. Now, it's only 20%. How did you do that?” I said, “What you learned is when you get sick next time, what are you going to do? You are going to get adjusted. The drug is not going to change that. The nervous system will.”

Anyhow, it's really exciting to teach kids how to get out of pain without a drug, so they know they have an option because, in this world, they're not given an option. They don't know how to get out of pain. I had a kid that was on a tube behind a boat who got thrown out. He was in a horrible amount of pain. He was eleven years old. I got him adjusted and he lets out a sigh of relief. I said to his mom, “You taught him something invaluable. He now knows how to get out of pain without taking a drug. How powerful is that?”

At the end of every episode, I'd like to ask all my guests what is one piece of advice that has resonated with you over the years that you would like to give the audience. It could be anything.

I'm going to put a spin on this. This was taught to me by my father, but I find that it applies to almost everything. He taught me birth control.

Let’s hear it.

You don't want the whole story, but the bottom line is, I was in chiropractic college and getting married. He was concerned and I said, “I'm not going to get pregnant,” and he said, “Positive thought followed by positive action.” That applies to almost anything we do in this world. You got to think positive, but then you got to do positive action.

Thank you so much for coming to the show. I really appreciated your story and all the amazing work you've done and are doing. I would be honored to have you back at any time.

I've got an immune study coming out that I've been working on for a number of years. It's about to be published. It is stunning. I invested in getting this immune study done because I wanted people to know where their immune function came from.

What better time than now for that to be published? I had it done quite a while ago, but it has been sitting in the publisher queue and blowing my mind.

Where can people keep their eye on the journal? Is that able to be said yet?

Let me leave it alone for the moment.

When that does come out, please message me.

I will. I would love to jump on that.

I’ll be sure to share it because that's huge. Thank you so much. I'll talk to you soon.

God bless you.

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About Dr. Julie Mayer Hunt

“Being witness to the positive impact my father, Dr. David Mayer, had on so many lives, led me to my chosen career of 30+ years. As a chiropractor, I am both blessed and humbled to be able to help my patients improve their lives on a daily basis. I am honored to have the opportunity to affect more lives by making a positive impact on chiropractic care throughout the entire State of Florida. Also, the future of chiropractic care is near and dear to my heart, as my son Travis has now graduated from chiropractic college and joined us in the office.”

Dr. Hunt graduated cum laude from Life University in 1981. She has completed postgraduate studies leading to her board certification in Orthospinology, Diplomate status in Chiropractic Pediatrics in 2000, and Fellow status in Cervcio-Cranial Junction Procedures in 2016.

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